Apologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
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To elk or not to elk
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That's an opinion that you are entitled to have.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoApologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
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Were you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping tripRedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoThat's an opinion that you are entitled to have.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoApologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
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That’s what it ended up deign.Sid wrote: ↑1 year agoWere you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping tripRedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoThat's an opinion that you are entitled to have.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoApologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
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Right, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoThat’s what it ended up deign.Sid wrote: ↑1 year agoWere you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping tripRedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoThat's an opinion that you are entitled to have.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoApologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
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Again; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoRight, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoThat’s what it ended up deign.Sid wrote: ↑1 year agoWere you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping tripRedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoThat's an opinion that you are entitled to have.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoApologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
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Please - "inform" me....RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoAgain; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoRight, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoThat’s what it ended up deign.
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Inform you of what? You have an opinion that hunting is abhorrent and that is incorrect.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoPlease - "inform" me....RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoAgain; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoRight, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
So say why though innit. There can be legit reasons, like some communities rely on it etc. But the fact you're not saying suggests that ain't the case with you.RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoInform you of what? You have an opinion that hunting is abhorrent and that is incorrect.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoPlease - "inform" me....RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoAgain; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoRight, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
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These are NOT subsistence hunts, rather they are a lottery drawing for which you must pay to apply and be lucky enough to be picked, if you are not picked you forfeit the cost of the application. The money raised from these hunts (licenses, permits, tags) is used by the Arizona Game & Fish, and Forestry Departments to help maintain the lands on which the hunts occur, otherwise that cost would have to be covered by federal and state taxes. I could purchase a half (or even a quarter) a cow from one of the local ranches, butchered that is between 4 to 8 hundred pounds and cost $750 - $1500 approximately. Of course you could buy the meat one steak at a time but then the cost becomes extremely expensive. A hunting license, drawing entry and tags will cost me about $150 and a butchered Elk will provide about 450 pounds. It is illegal not to maximize the amount of meat taken from a downed animal, the penalties are; fines and the loss of equipment used in the hunt (vehicles, planes, boats), weapons and camp equipment although it is usually just the fine.Sid wrote: ↑1 year agoSo say why though innit. There can be legit reasons, like some communities rely on it etc. But the fact you're not saying suggests that ain't the case with you.RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoInform you of what? You have an opinion that hunting is abhorrent and that is incorrect.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year agoPlease - "inform" me....RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year agoAgain; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
Right, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
These hunts are not just harvesting animals, the hunting areas cover hundreds (and in some cases thousands) of square miles, the animals have better sense of sight, hearing and smell, they are stronger and have better stamina. The rates for getting picked for these hunts is very low and not all those picked will be successful, the fulfilment rates is usually around the mid to high teens. If you choose not to eat meat that’s just fine, if you choose to have someone else kill and butcher your animal of choice, that also works. I will kill and eat my own animals thanks.