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Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:12 pm
by dozer
Alfonso Bedoya wrote:
dozer wrote:Ffs. Nani didn't play well yesterday. In fact he showed us why even young is preferred over him with his laughable attempt on goal yesterday.
I'm not a fan of Nani... complete twat of a player, and a waste of excellent talent... but you're never going to see the best of Nani playing him once a month... you either give him a regular starting place, and stick with him, or just get rid... he's never going to be an impact player off the bench...
I think that's happened a few times and he's still fucked it up. He's a better Bebe. He's got some ability which comes out in flashes but he's a liability and an overhead to the team most of the time.
The overhead with him being given a regular place is too much so yeah. We should get rid.

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:28 pm
by lkhmffsstopmovingabout
bman2 wrote:
lkhmffsstopmovingabout wrote:just a constant stream of drivel from this bman2 twat tbf, bman1 was much better (or should that be bill)
Jaysus, from the guy who rimjobs Klopp every chance he can get now, but had never heard of Kagawa or Dortmund two seasons ago when they were one the best sides in the world, playing a level of football united hasn't come close to in years, with kagawa one the stars. Be honest, how often do you watch a football match that united or england aren't playing in?
absolutely mental

ive never once mentioned klopp, but i have seen you claim moyles is better than mourinho and wenger, and then say no manager out there couldve done a better job than him, and now kagawas better than mata, and you were one of the few fuckwits who thought fellaini would be a top signing

you obviously dont have a fucking clue tbf

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:40 pm
by marlon
When Nani was last a regular (2 seasons ago) he was creating chances at a level that would put him in the top 5 in the league. Only 12 starts in the league since then, but he's still our most creative winger and by far our best dribbler. It's not like Robben and Ribery are keeping him out of the team. If he'd had the 30 starts Young and Valencia have shared we'd have far more than 4 goals and 3 assists to show for it.

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:39 pm
by Lazarus
Nani the embodiment of all that's been wrong with United for years. Both should have been much better.

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:52 pm
by madredmonkey
Mata was superb against Newcastle, played in his correct position, and looked worth every penny that we paid for him, also good to see him getting on the scoresheet regular now.

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:31 pm
by Snoopcousins
dozer wrote:
Alfonso Bedoya wrote:
dozer wrote:Ffs. Nani didn't play well yesterday. In fact he showed us why even young is preferred over him with his laughable attempt on goal yesterday.
I'm not a fan of Nani... complete twat of a player, and a waste of excellent talent... but you're never going to see the best of Nani playing him once a month... you either give him a regular starting place, and stick with him, or just get rid... he's never going to be an impact player off the bench...
I think that's happened a few times and he's still fucked it up. He's a better Bebe. He's got some ability which comes out in flashes but he's a liability and an overhead to the team most of the time.
The overhead with him being given a regular place is too much so yeah. We should get rid.
Ffs Dozer....most of what you've just said is exactly the case with Fellaini who has nothing at all about him whatsoever, zero qualities for Utd, at least Nani has made a difference in the past and does hav quality even tho he's been frustrating...

Fellaini is a waste of a starting place and walks around avoiding the ball. That makes any argument you ever have redundant because you have no base level of what quality actually is

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:18 pm
by lkhmffsstopmovingabout
lkhmffsstopmovingabout wrote:
bman2 wrote:
lkhmffsstopmovingabout wrote:just a constant stream of drivel from this bman2 twat tbf, bman1 was much better (or should that be bill)
Jaysus, from the guy who rimjobs Klopp every chance he can get now, but had never heard of Kagawa or Dortmund two seasons ago when they were one the best sides in the world, playing a level of football united hasn't come close to in years, with kagawa one the stars. Be honest, how often do you watch a football match that united or england aren't playing in?
absolutely mental

ive never once mentioned klopp, but i have seen you claim moyles is better than mourinho and wenger, and then say no manager out there couldve done a better job than him, and now kagawas better than mata, and you were one of the few fuckwits who thought fellaini would be a top signing

you obviously dont have a fucking clue tbf
infact were you not also the cock who claimed carrick and fletcher are better than gerrard and fletcher is our yaya toure ffs

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:22 pm
by Steggo
8 changes on Saturday and Felliani wasn't one of them. That about sums it up. Kagawa and Januzaj against Bayern? Perhaps Moyes might get it eventually. Its not the losing that hurts,its the manner in which we lose that counts.

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:19 pm
by Bill2
That performance on Sat was scary. Kagawa, Mata, Januzaj and Hernandez are all fluid, skilful players who happily work together. You sense Rooney and RVP aren't like that.

Re: vs Newcastle

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:40 am
by dozer
Bill2 wrote:That performance on Sat was scary. Kagawa, Mata, Januzaj and Hernandez are all fluid, skilful players who happily work together. You sense Rooney and RVP aren't like that.
Hernandez isn't exactly fluid; he scores goals but I wouldn't describe his play as fluid and Kagawa only played well in the second half when he was shifted on the right side of midfield.
I think it's a one off performance. Moyes wouldn't start with this Kagawa and Hernandez unless he was forced to. Fergie did the same too.

The only thing that's clear is that Rooney and RVP must compete for the number 9 role. Mata shouldn't play out wide.
Either that or Rooney must occasionally play on the left wing to accommodate RVP.