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marlon wrote:Wouldn't the asian federations back Prince Ali too?
Only if the "Western arrogance" line was sincere, rather than a cover for a hierarchy of kickbacks.
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From the BBC:
Platini on his meeting Sepp Blatter: "I have affection for Mr Blatter - he always says he is a uncle to me so if I don't tell him nobody will. He says that some days or weeks ago it could be possible [to stand down] but now it is too late.

"I feel he is a friend with a problem and it is my duty to tell him that. I hope my friends will tell me one day 'Michel, it is time that you go away' and I hope that I follow their recommendation."
Jeez, I've got this unshakable image in my head now of Blatter sitting in an armchair, saying to Platini: "come sit on uncle Sepp's knee, Michel, I promise I'll be gentle!" :ymsick:
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Blatter wil probably still win this vote, which says it all. Corrupt from top to bottom. It'd be easier to start from scratch than try to clean it up and reform it.
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marlon wrote:Wouldn't the asian federations back Prince Ali too?

Not Qatar anyway lol or Russia, although it's not Asian
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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Haha Platini saying Uefa will withdraw from FIFA if Septic tank gets re elected
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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marlon wrote:Blatter wil probably still win this vote, which says it all. Corrupt from top to bottom. It'd be easier to start from scratch than try to clean it up and reform it.
Exactly. It's corrupt to the bones. It's better to have a new governing body replacing FIFA.
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Fuck, sky just broke down all the voting there and they reckon Blatters already won because he only needs 105 votes and the block votes of Africa, Conacaf and Oceania will be enough plus he'll have Asia, Russia and weirdly Spain(?) from the countries who have independent votes
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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Lazarus wrote:So David Gill is supposed to take over tomorrow as vice-chairman from Jim Boyce (dickhead)........

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 59685.html

He's just been saying he's told his Uefa colleagues, if Blatter wins he'll not take a position within Fifa
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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Alfonso Bedoya wrote:
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marlon wrote:Sid's right. If they were hosting world cup this wouldn't be happening. Take what we can get though
Notice how the corruption charges the Americans are putting forward only go back 20 years?

That's because the yanks hosted it the World Cup in 94, and it would mean investigating and revealing the inevitable corruption involved in their bid

So their limit ia 20 years, nothing earlier, otherwise it gets awkward for them and they lose the narrative that we play by the rules and nobody else does
Fuckin hell Sid... can you not see that there is 2 different levels of corruption at work here?? I can hear you now laughing like that's a daft statement, but it's not... there probably isn't a single sport, big money sport, in the world that isn't being manipulated, and corrupted for one reason or another... the Olympics, boxing, cricket, baseball, basketball, etc, etc... if it's not match fixing, it's gambling, or drug offences, or youth trading, or whatever... there's somebody backhanding someone else somewhere for something... the bigger the sport, the bigger the problem... football is full of it, and no ones hands are clean... but there's the wheeling and dealing that's been going on for decades, ever since the WC became a global money machine...the ego stroking, wining and dining, present buying, political favouritisms, all the stuff that's rife in every single big sporting event, the Olympics is probably even worse for this shit...

And then there's FIFA... listening to you right now, you'd think FIFA is being persecuted by the real villains here, the British and the Yanks...

First of all, it's not just the British and the Americans who are driving this... there are a lot of FAs who have been calling for something like this for years, and years... the only ones not complaining, are the countries directly benefitting from Blatters rule... what's going on in Qatar, and the migrant worker deaths, is a far worse issue than the possible snidey agenda of our FA and it's push to hold the tournament... regardless, the Germans, the French, the Italians, the Australians, and many others would all love to see FIFA torn down and rebuilt...

But as far as blaming the Americans... I've no doubt they've got their own agenda, but the reason they're heading this investigation is because they are the only country who have the legal system to make this work... whether you agree with it or not, the American approach to evidence, and specifically plea bargaining gives them an advantage, that apparently other countries don't have... but that doesn't mean they're on their own... if you've been following this you'd see that, it's because of this system that all the other concerned FAs have been working with the Americans to make this raid happen... and I don't think any of this would have happened if the Yanks hadn't caught one of their own, neck deep in it...

I don't think American "soccer" is going to benefit from this directly, so I'm not exactly sure what their agenda is, but sometimes you just have to accept that good things can come from even the worst villains and their selfish motives... in the end, it's the change that matters... whatever happens, I can guarantee, there isn't an FA anywhere that isn't sweating on what's going to come out here, including ours...

And I don't really care at this point... usually in situations like this, the cunts at the top slither away, while some no mark lackey carries all the blame... it seems, (hopefully) that for once, it's the cunts at the top who are being dragged out into the light, and if that happens then football is going to shake to its very core... and there won't be an FA anywhere that isn't affected... real change was never going to happen until FIFA was sorted out...

I really don't see, how you can't see, that this can only be a good thing...
I've already said I'm all for arresting em and calling in the firing squad

But I just don't trust the yanks or the British. Nobody should, very few do. But that shouldn't lead you in to thinking I'm sticking up for FIFA or victimising em, because I'm genuinely enjoying seeing em scurrying out of their 5 star hotels in cuffs. I'm just putting across a highly sceptical alternative view amidst the America fuck yeah shite - a view that I also said could be total bollocks.
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Alfonso Bedoya wrote:
Spudiator wrote:Vladimir Putin having his say, from BBC Sportsday Live:
Russian president Vladimir Putin has laced up his size nines and careered into the Fifa farrago. Safe to say he's not exactly enamoured by the actions of the USA...

"It looks very strange, the arrests are carried out on the request of the USA side - it's got nothing to do with the USA," he told Russian state television. "It's another clear attempt by the USA to spread its jurisdiction to other states. And I have no doubt - it's a clear attempt not to allow Mr Blatter to be re-elected as president of FIFA."
He's got a point about America trying to police the whole world, but let's face it, that's not why he's got an interest in this really, he probably knows as well as we all do that Russia's own part in this whole scandal is bound to end up being uncovered.
The Americans are "policing" this, because they have the opportunity/jurisdiction that other countries don't...

And as for the Americans covering their own tracks, there's nothing stopping Russia, Qatar, or Blatter for that matter conducting their own investigation to show the Americans up as hypocrites, and just as guilty as anyone, and in fact, if/when all this goes to court, you can be damned sure that they will attempt to do just that...

I've got no love for Americans at all, but this is one case where I'm backing them all the way... as long as it's thorough and transparent!
The yanks gave themselves jurisdiction, but it's not like they ever stick to em

And thorough and transparent... That old chesnut. Good luck with that
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