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just1n wrote:Haha Knobby. Your England bias is laughable. If you take out Carrick and replace him with Gerrard you will get more goals from him but less defensive solidity and far less possession. He is not disciplined enough to play as a DM. Gerrard has no clue of how to keep possession. Nothing but hollywood balls that find the opposition fullback. Fuck that for a laugh.
Uhhh... how is replacing one Englishman, with an other... showing an English bias???

Other than that... that was a ridiculous post...

Gerrard pisses on Carrick from a very great height... Carrick is good, and had a very good season last year... but Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes are the 3 best midfielders to come out of England since Robson.
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bman2 wrote:He had plenty of x factor as an attacking midfielder, but he doesn't have the fundamentals a "modern" central midfielder needs in terms of positioning, passing etc. Carrick pisses on him from a great height in the withdrawn role that Gerrard now plays in, anybody who's not English can see that, there's not even a debate over it.
Oh fuck off...

Carrick is a water carrier, compared to Gerrard... all that positional shite, is only as important as your overall contribution to the team... who gives a fuck if he's out of position as long as someone backs him up?... ultimately, the idea of the game is to put more balls in the opposition net than they put in yours... Gerrard scores more, assists more, and even if he's not quite as good at the defensive side as Carrick, he still pulls his weight... and he can actually tackle for one thing... and he's been one of the best Captains in the PL for years.

Fuck me... sometimes I despair the football intelligence here.
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Alfonso Bedoya wrote:
just1n wrote:Haha Knobby. Your England bias is laughable. If you take out Carrick and replace him with Gerrard you will get more goals from him but less defensive solidity and far less possession. He is not disciplined enough to play as a DM. Gerrard has no clue of how to keep possession. Nothing but hollywood balls that find the opposition fullback. Fuck that for a laugh.
Uhhh... how is replacing one Englishman, with an other... showing an English bias???

Other than that... that was a ridiculous post...

Gerrard pisses on Carrick from a very great height... Carrick is good, and had a very good season last year... but Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes are the 3 best midfielders to come out of England since Robson.
If you try leaning forward in your wank chariot and actually fucking read what he posted then you will see that knob said that Gerrard is better than ANYONE we would buy. Thats English bias mate.
Three best midfielders since Robson that can't play together and have done nothing in world football. Hell Gascoigne , Ince and Hargreaves took various tournaments by storm compared to Stevie G. Thankfully tactically astute managers like Benitez played Alonso behind him otherwise Pool would have been left hopelessly in the shit with his headless chicken routine.
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just1n wrote:
Alfonso Bedoya wrote:
just1n wrote:Haha Knobby. Your England bias is laughable. If you take out Carrick and replace him with Gerrard you will get more goals from him but less defensive solidity and far less possession. He is not disciplined enough to play as a DM. Gerrard has no clue of how to keep possession. Nothing but hollywood balls that find the opposition fullback. Fuck that for a laugh.
Uhhh... how is replacing one Englishman, with an other... showing an English bias???

Other than that... that was a ridiculous post...

Gerrard pisses on Carrick from a very great height... Carrick is good, and had a very good season last year... but Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes are the 3 best midfielders to come out of England since Robson.
If you try leaning forward in your wank chariot and actually fucking read what he posted then you will see that knob said that Gerrard is better than ANYONE we would buy. Thats English bias mate.
Three best midfielders since Robson that can't play together and have done nothing in world football. Hell Gascoigne , Ince and Hargreaves took various tournaments by storm compared to Stevie G. Thankfully tactically astute managers like Benitez played Alonso behind him otherwise Pool would have been left hopelessly in the shit with his headless chicken routine.
Wind your neck in Mate... it's not my fault if your post suggests something other than what you meant... anyway, even your response is full of nonsense.

Considering who we expect to sign, if anyone, then Gerrard would be better... and saying Hargreaves took a tournament by storm is hilarious, and dips the rest of your post in shit... but just to be thorough... Benitez had Gerrard at his peak, when he still had the legs to be a box to box monster, holding him back as a defensive mid would have been criminal... and Gerrards performance against AC in the Champs league final was the stuff of legend, right up there with Keane v Juventus... when has Carrick EVER taken on a game like that?

The bottom line is this... Gerrard dumps on Carrick... any time, anywhere... and to suggest otherwise is football heresy.
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Alfonso Bedoya wrote: Wind your neck in Mate... it's not my fault if your post suggests something other than what you meant... anyway, even your response is full of nonsense.

Considering who we expect to sign, if anyone, then Gerrard would be better... and saying Hargreaves took a tournament by storm is hilarious, and dips the rest of your post in shit... but just to be thorough... Benitez had Gerrard at his peak, when he still had the legs to be a box to box monster, holding him back as a defensive mid would have been criminal... and Gerrards performance against AC in the Champs league final was the stuff of legend, right up there with Keane v Juventus... when has Carrick EVER taken on a game like that?

The bottom line is this... Gerrard dumps on Carrick... any time, anywhere... and to suggest otherwise is football heresy.
FFS, Benitez did *not* use Gerrard as a box to box monster. He did the exact opposite by relieving him of defensive duties and putting not just a Carrick-style player, Alonso, behind him but also a pure defensive destroyer type in Mascherano. After a while in fact, Benitez didn't even trust Gerrard up top, he started sticking him on the wing, although even I think that's taking things too far.

Don't get me wrong, Gerrard was a great midfielder cum supporting striker type, with a great eye for goal. But he's relatively shite at distribution, relatively shite at retaining possession, and relatively shite at positioning compared to other top midfielders. With him playing the Carrick role for Liverpool and now England, you haven't noticed that it helps make those teams a bit shit?
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This is like the Gerrard or Lampard debate we had for years

Irrelevant because we're not going to win anything while Gerrard is still a player/alive
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just1n wrote:
Alfonso Bedoya wrote:
just1n wrote:Haha Knobby. Your England bias is laughable. If you take out Carrick and replace him with Gerrard you will get more goals from him but less defensive solidity and far less possession. He is not disciplined enough to play as a DM. Gerrard has no clue of how to keep possession. Nothing but hollywood balls that find the opposition fullback. Fuck that for a laugh.
Uhhh... how is replacing one Englishman, with an other... showing an English bias???

Other than that... that was a ridiculous post...

Gerrard pisses on Carrick from a very great height... Carrick is good, and had a very good season last year... but Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes are the 3 best midfielders to come out of England since Robson.
If you try leaning forward in your wank chariot and actually fucking read what he posted then you will see that knob said that Gerrard is better than ANYONE we would buy. Thats English bias mate.
not sure how you can argue that tbf when the list consists solely of fellaini
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fantastic performance by the under 21s, 6-0
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Now that Pearce and all of his staff have gone

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23683278

So Rooney's confided in Gerrard, well that's a startling revelation that tells us fuck all! Not quite sure why He felt the need to furnish us with that vital tit-bit of information!
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