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Sid wrote: The idea of "1st world" countries is racist bullshit tbf. Colonial thinking.
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Probably not the right thread to debate this Sid, but how do you figure that?
It positions a heirarchy of countries with the rich ones at the top as the "most developed", which is a colonial way of looking at the world

The bullshit is that the poorest countries are often the most exploited - uaually by the rich countries

Also it's often used in a bad context, like third world is used to suggest fucking stone age like primitivism

The term has been replaced by others now. It's not often used in an official capacity. At uni we were told to stay away from it, and that was almost 10 years ago.

To link it back to football though, some would be shocked and pissed off if England were beaten by a socalled third world country. Again, a colonial hang up for me. It's not about how rich you are but how good you are at football.
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bman2 wrote:I like the French team, could be brutal with the right tactics.
They're embroiled in another race row with Cantona and Benzema accusing Deschamp of overlooking players with darker skin

Remember that scandal a few years ago with Blanc and the French FA saying that the team must be more white. They're fucking idiots. They're going to shank their chances of winning a major tournament
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Sid wrote:
swampash wrote:
Sid wrote: The idea of "1st world" countries is racist bullshit tbf. Colonial thinking.
:-? :-\
Probably not the right thread to debate this Sid, but how do you figure that?
It positions a heirarchy of countries with the rich ones at the top as the "most developed", which is a colonial way of looking at the world

The bullshit is that the poorest countries are often the most exploited - uaually by the rich countries

Also it's often used in a bad context, like third world is used to suggest fucking stone age like primitivism

The term has been replaced by others now. It's not often used in an official capacity. At uni we were told to stay away from it, and that was almost 10 years ago.

To link it back to football though, some would be shocked and pissed off if England were beaten by a socalled third world country. Again, a colonial hang up for me. It's not about how rich you are but how good you are at football.
I thought the term 3rd world was coined by the French, who saw the 1st world as the capitalist economies and the 2nd world as the communist economies; thus the 3rd world was coined to distinguish their economies from the dominant two systems of political economy at the time. Thus it wasn't really a racist or colonially inspired pejorative term.
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But third world also includes countries with a colonial past from africa, asia, latin america. And now it is entirely used in that context.
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What did you study at Uni, Sid?
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Film and history. Also did music for a while but music in higher education is total and complete shite.
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Sid wrote:But third world also includes countries with a colonial past from africa, asia, latin america. And now it is entirely used in that context.
Yes, like a lot of things it's been misappropriated. But it wasn't originally meant to be a pejorative term.
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Sid wrote:Film and history. Also did music for a while but music in higher education is total and complete shite.
Interesting combination.
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Film wasn't considered a proper enough subject to study on its own so it has to be paired with a proper degree that the Daily Mail approve of, even though films now are considered vital historical documents and the best media platform to bring history and stories to life

I was too busy making music to learn a lot though tbf. You're only in 10 hours a week and you're given almost enough money to live on. You can't turn that down. 4 years oht of work? Fuck yeah
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Holy fuck a thread that's all over the place and i can't be blamed!

Germany to win.

Staying in Europe.

Go on the French workers!

Oh and fuck Benzema, he's a scum bag. (Even though there is a racism issue)
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