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To elk or not to elk
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:42 am
by Pikey McScum
Apologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
That's not cool...
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:24 pm
by RedDevilinAZ
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
Apologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
That's not cool...
That's an opinion that you are entitled to have.
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:44 pm
by Sid
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
Apologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
That's not cool...
That's an opinion that you are entitled to have.
Were you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping trip
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:39 pm
by RedDevilinAZ
Sid wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
Apologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
That's not cool...
That's an opinion that you are entitled to have.
Were you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping trip
That’s what it ended up deign.
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:08 pm
by Pikey McScum
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Sid wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
Apologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
That's not cool...
That's an opinion that you are entitled to have.
Were you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping trip
That’s what it ended up deign.
Right, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:56 pm
by RedDevilinAZ
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Sid wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
Apologies in advance if I picked this up wrong, but were you actually out hunting elk??
That's not cool...
That's an opinion that you are entitled to have.
Were you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping trip
That’s what it ended up deign.
Right, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
Again; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:11 pm
by Pikey McScum
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Sid wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
That's an opinion that you are entitled to have.
Were you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping trip
That’s what it ended up deign.
Right, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
Again; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.
Please - "inform" me....
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:32 pm
by RedDevilinAZ
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Sid wrote: ↑1 year ago
Were you actually killing elk? I thought it was a glorified camping trip
That’s what it ended up deign.
Right, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
Again; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.
Please - "inform" me....
Inform you of what? You have an opinion that hunting is abhorrent and that is incorrect.
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:55 pm
by Sid
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
Right, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
Again; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.
Please - "inform" me....
Inform you of what? You have an opinion that hunting is abhorrent and that is incorrect.
So say why though innit. There can be legit reasons, like some communities rely on it etc. But the fact you're not saying suggests that ain't the case with you.
Re: To elk or not to elk
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:23 pm
by RedDevilinAZ
Sid wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
RedDevilinAZ wrote: ↑1 year ago
Pikey McScum wrote: ↑1 year ago
Right, so the original purpose of this glorified camping trip was to kill elk!? Regardless of whether or not you actually killed any, the intent alone is absolutely abhorrent.
Again; that's an opinion that you are entitled to have, regardless of how misinformed it is.
Please - "inform" me....
Inform you of what? You have an opinion that hunting is abhorrent and that is incorrect.
So say why though innit. There can be legit reasons, like some communities rely on it etc. But the fact you're not saying suggests that ain't the case with you.
These are NOT subsistence hunts, rather they are a lottery drawing for which you must pay to apply and be lucky enough to be picked, if you are not picked you forfeit the cost of the application. The money raised from these hunts (licenses, permits, tags) is used by the Arizona Game & Fish, and Forestry Departments to help maintain the lands on which the hunts occur, otherwise that cost would have to be covered by federal and state taxes. I could purchase a half (or even a quarter) a cow from one of the local ranches, butchered that is between 4 to 8 hundred pounds and cost $750 - $1500 approximately. Of course you could buy the meat one steak at a time but then the cost becomes extremely expensive. A hunting license, drawing entry and tags will cost me about $150 and a butchered Elk will provide about 450 pounds. It is illegal not to maximize the amount of meat taken from a downed animal, the penalties are; fines and the loss of equipment used in the hunt (vehicles, planes, boats), weapons and camp equipment although it is usually just the fine.
These hunts are not just harvesting animals, the hunting areas cover hundreds (and in some cases thousands) of square miles, the animals have better sense of sight, hearing and smell, they are stronger and have better stamina. The rates for getting picked for these hunts is very low and not all those picked will be successful, the fulfilment rates is usually around the mid to high teens. If you choose not to eat meat that’s just fine, if you choose to have someone else kill and butcher your animal of choice, that also works. I will kill and eat my own animals thanks.