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Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:29 pm
by RedDevilinAZ
While is true; “you can’t always get what you want” you can play a style of football more suited to the players you have and neither van Gaal nor Mourinho did that. At least on the surface; on the whole van Gaal appeared to get the players he wanted; it was how he used them where thing went very wrong. Instead of taking advantage of the skill set that the players had he continued with a style of football that the players did not have the skills to implement.

Mourinho was even worse at playing a style totally unsuited to his players.

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:22 pm
by Lazarus
I don't give a fuck what LVG has to say...... we debated his short comings ad nauseam.

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:53 pm
by bman2
Did you see that Rooney recently called him by far the best coach he's worked with? Said he was head and shoulders above the others in terms of tactics and attention to detail. We need a coach like that at the club. Managers like Pep, Klopp, and Poch are post-Van Gaal managers -- they've taken his level of tactical awareness, and added new dimensions to it.

Gaal was a bit past it, but we probably would have been better off sticking with him for a season or two instead of going for Mourinho, which was just an expensive road to nowhere that tore up the things that Gaal did right. We'd have been better positioned to transition to a younger, more cutting edge manager after Gaal.

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:00 pm
by fat maradona
bman2 wrote:
1 year ago
Did you see that Rooney recently called him by far the best coach he's worked with? Said he was head and shoulders above the others in terms of tactics and attention to detail. We need a coach like that at the club. Managers like Pep, Klopp, and Poch are post-Van Gaal managers -- they've taken his level of tactical awareness, and added new dimensions to it.

Gaal was a bit past it, but we probably would have been better off sticking with him for a season or two instead of going for Mourinho, which was just an expensive road to nowhere that tore up the things that Gaal did right. We'd have been better positioned to transition to a younger, more cutting edge manager after Gaal.
That's if the Board would have let him run things the way he thought they needed to be. His biggest gripe was not being able to influence anything. And his brand of football was depressing as fuck.

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:15 pm
by bman2
The football was frequently depressing as fuck. But that's been the case with jose and ole too. It's possible that with a few more additions of the right kind of player, the team would have gotten much more dangerous under Gaal. Our transfers seemed pretty random in those days, with Woodward constantly going for whatever supposed galacticos super agents were flogging at the close of the window.

I'm not saying Gaal was great or that he was the right manager for us, especially in the long term, just that it might well have been better to stick with him than shift to Jose, who played a completely different style of football, and wanted a whole new team.

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 5:47 pm
by Sid
bman2 wrote:
1 year ago
Did you see that Rooney recently called him by far the best coach he's worked with? Said he was head and shoulders above the others in terms of tactics and attention to detail. We need a coach like that at the club. Managers like Pep, Klopp, and Poch are post-Van Gaal managers -- they've taken his level of tactical awareness, and added new dimensions to it.

Gaal was a bit past it, but we probably would have been better off sticking with him for a season or two instead of going for Mourinho, which was just an expensive road to nowhere that tore up the things that Gaal did right. We'd have been better positioned to transition to a younger, more cutting edge manager after Gaal.
The players were saying this at the time too. But the football geniuses on here (most of whom are now banned) said he was shit, so, what does one of the greatest ever players know really?

Not sure about sticking with him, but his high pressing possession based football was more modern than Mourinho's ultra defensive give-the-ball-away long ball shite. The philosophy was far from perfect but it was based in modern times and would have served as a better platform to build on for the next man.

Mourinho really set us back with his dinosaur long ball shit. Now we don't even have a team that can run for 90 minutes let alone press because they've been conditioned into deliberately giving the ball away and parking the bus. He also spent all the fucking money.

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:04 pm
by Lazarus
Let's play pick your favourite turd...... :D

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:52 pm
by marlon
Nah. Gaal was awful. We only scored 49 in his second season and our only tactic was to see what Martial could do against 3/4 defenders. A different style, but like Mourinho, we played boring football which hampered our attack and the defence was shit anyway.

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:58 pm
by Sid
marlon wrote:
1 year ago
Nah. Gaal was awful. We only scored 49 in his second season and our only tactic was to see what Martial could do against 3/4 defenders. A different style, but like Mourinho, we played boring football which hampered our attack and the defence was shit anyway.
You don't think keeping the high pressing game would have been good idea?

Re: Louis Van Gaal

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:05 pm
by marlon
His press was crap, teams ran straight though us.