Yeah, well... you've well and truly trashed your own opinion here...bman2 wrote:Better than Scholes and Giggs? Vidic? I'd be tempted to rate all three ahead of Rooney in terms of their contribution to the club's success.lkhmffsstopmovingabout wrote:third best of the past ten years behind ron and rio tbf
Rooney doesn't need to be argued about his goal scoring stats speak for themselves, only Bobby to beat. Scholes is better in his position than Rooney, Rio is better in his and so on and so on. Debating this with clowns is fucking nonsense. Time will tell.Alfonso Bedoya wrote:Yeah, well... you've well and truly trashed your own opinion here...bman2 wrote:Better than Scholes and Giggs? Vidic? I'd be tempted to rate all three ahead of Rooney in terms of their contribution to the club's success.lkhmffsstopmovingabout wrote:third best of the past ten years behind ron and rio tbf
"For me, Rooney is on the same level as Carrick as a player and as a contributor to United's success over the past decade or so."
Pick the bones out of that... fuckin hell...
swampash wrote:I'm loving this!
Dozer, bman - have either of you ever played team sports at a reasonably competitive level?
You both sound like lone pooh sticks players who don't get the essence of what building balanced teams, where integrated skills count, is about.
bman2 wrote:Better than Scholes and Giggs? Vidic? I'd be tempted to rate all three ahead of Rooney in terms of their contribution to the club's success.lkhmffsstopmovingabout wrote:third best of the past ten years behind ron and rio tbf
The point which was discussed over here before everyone started getting all whiny and twitchy is whether Rooney should be played in midfield if we bought a new striker who turned out to be good.Alfonso Bedoya wrote:Bollocks... you've been slagging off Rooney for years...dozer wrote:Listen, all I ever said was Rooney should play up-front i.e.fight for the no 9 spot if we get a striker or not play. He shouldn't be played in midfield.Alfonso Bedoya wrote:It's always the same with these cunts... "what's he done lately"???Lazarus wrote:I'm not saying we don't need another striker who can bang goals in. But i am sick of some people on here endlessly harping on at Rooney. I've been over this so many times. How many seasons have United fucked him about one way or another? How much shit did Fergie cause? How often has he been played out of position? How long have we complained about the lack of investment in the team? How long has he played with an old or completely shit midfield? When it looked like we had something going with Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez the whole thing fell apart thru bad stewardship and we went backwards instead.
And yet he's troubling all the records even though he's been hampered all the way and on the few occasions things clicked he delivered every time.
dozer's the worst... make the point that he's often been played out of position and he claims you're making excuses for Rooney...
The only real complaint you can make about Rooney is that he probably hasn't pushed his talent as far as he should have... but, starting with Ronaldo, and then continuing a theme, Rooney has always been used to accommodate others... the UNDENIABLE TRUTH is, if Ferguson and United had employed Rooney consistently, in a striker role, he would have SMASHED Charltons record long ago, and would probably be heading towards 300 goals... on this planet, or any other, that's the stuff of legend... but it just doesn't matter, because there will always be some pissy cunt, who simply won't have it!"
I also said that he's had poor seasons over the last few years. If our top scorer next season is Rooney in the same form he's shown in the last few seasons then we're in trouble.
So sorry for you and especially your wife. There is nothing else I can say except I hope life starts to get better.swampash wrote:But finally, and I will probably get a load of grief for this post - but it is what is in my head at the moment. The moderators will probably reassign it anyway, but: after 3 months of stress coping with Mrs Swampash's mother's terminal illness, matters came to a head Monday/Tuesday. Finally resolved late Tuesday afternoon. As the lone Brit in a sea of German family emotions, joshing with you guys was a real and hugely valued antidote. You're all cunts, who I don't know, but your collective bollox was a really welcome distraction. Thanks.
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