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redzebs wrote:Laz, I wouldn't be worried mate, it was only Martin McGuiness doing a mini Sturgeon but the Irish pm was straight in saying bollocks, they've had contingency plans well established, there'll be no border issues, which is what Britain wants too so why would either side want to not make it seamless and as easy as possible, the enterprise will still ferry workers each way every day, I can't see any major issue in the South and from what I can gather so far, the South wants good trade agreements with the U.K. and blatantly is not in the right place to even think that they could look after/afford NI. If the Scots go, fuck them tbf, but I think the rest of us will be ok and if I have to fill in a visa application form and stand in a different queue while on the continent, big fuckin whoop, Norway and Sweden have managed to work it so there's no reason why we can't. And who knows, now we can actually elect people into roles were they can make laws and act knowing the shackles are off, we might see the emergence of some new politics and new politicians, especially as the remain camp are going to be dead set to make sure they are heard in future, I expect voter turnout in local and national elections to be a lot higher in the coming years.
McGuinness was the one being straight Zebs, the PM was doing politics. Zebs, i was you with no kids i'd be out of here asap. Go and soak up the culture in London. This mess has only gotten started.

Mate once they get to the bottom of all my health shit and the divorce is finalised I'm Londoning it to fuck!
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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redzebs wrote:Now dust has settled on day one, the U.K. has bounced back far quicker than I thought in terms of the strength of Sterling, stock exchange etc. while other indices around the world have shat the bricks far more, now Obsma has back tracked and wants to deal, Germany wants to deal sooner rather than later as do quite a few other countries. The rest of Europe is shitting itself and is already realising after some early morning barbs that there's no point being cunty towards the UK, and a lot of other countries political parties and normal working class people are launching campaigns which will soon turn into petitions and they are demanding their own vote. I think we've rolled the die and at the end of day one, it's looking ok, it's gonna take time but far from what I feared, which was a potential fuck you we are going to turn the screws on you attitude, other countries are realising that we will trade on our terms and it has opened up not only new countries to trade with but also the eu block needs us to play ball more than we need them to. Partly economically, partly because if they fuck us about and interfere with trading etc. Their own people will go hang on a minute, we want a chance to debate our role in this bloc. Basically anyone on my Facebook under 40 was kicking off big style which I found completely disrespectful, like the chart showing the percentage of votes in age groups with the last column the average age a voter would have left to live, obviously it was skewered to older voters, that's not even sour grapes, that's just being a cunt. Then in the next post they are ranting that 16 year olds should have been given the vote then we would have remained. Like people who are older that experienced pre eu and a few recessions, power cuts and everything shit that has happened since, are old foggies who have ruined everything, I'd probably say they have a fair idea of their own mind and I'd trust them to make a decision rather than the majority of fuckin 16 year olds. If we'd voted remain, I sincerely doubt the leave voters would have shown the complete lack of respect, the vitoril, the desperation, the signing of a petition calling for a second referendum and absolute refusal to accept democracy at work. Fuck it, if it goes pear shaped, we would be fast tracked and begged back in, rules bent all over the place. Europe is worried. And it probably should be because we are holding more cards judging by the immediate backing down of rhetoric and shite coming from other foreign politicians.


The brexit majority will have died by 2018. We'll probably still be negotiating at that point

That's a real snidey shitty statistic whoever the fuck Craig Murray is, some of the voters may be dead but at least they didn't get on like complete thundercunts during this whole thing. Actually people wanting another vote because they didn't get what they wanted is embarrassing, anyway, this morning I heard the pound is actually stronger today than it was pre referendum and the fact that so many world leaders are snuggling up to us already, by 2018 you might not even have a Euro Zone because it will only take one or two other countries that actually put money into the fuckin mess to pull out and it's Jenga time. And when it collapses, I know loads of people who will go "fuck I behaved like a spoilt child throwing a temper tantrum in my 30s/40s, I'm completely scundered". Because we'll have one of the strongest economies in all of Europe and the continent will be a fuckin mess. The IMF must be shitting themselves tbf
Well I suppose that's the knighthood fucked.
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They should obviously respect the result of the referendum.

http://jackofkent.com/2016/06/why-the-a ... important/

But is seems there's a decent chance they won't.
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Lazarus wrote:Fuck Jeremy ,if your going just say so and shut the fuck up, i've heard more out of him in the last 5 mins than i've heard for months.
Ha that was my thinking as well. He was speaking in past tense so I thought he's going to say he's off, any minute. But no, he remains. Good tbh
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The class hatred is unbearable at the minute. The middle classes, sections of the left, liberals, just heaping shit on the working class former industrial cities

These are the places like Hull that have shocking poverty, that have been neglected and ignored by politicians, the left, the revolutionaries - and now they have an excuse to carry that on because they've had their prejudices confirmed

I'm done at the minute, massively can't be fucked
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Thing is as well it's not just the white northern working class that voted leave, Birmingham did, and that's massively multicultural. So did Luton and Bradford.
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Lazarus wrote:Fuck Jeremy ,if your going just say so and shut the fuck up, i've heard more out of him in the last 5 mins than i've heard for months.
Ha that was my thinking as well. He was speaking in past tense so I thought he's going to say he's off, any minute. But no, he remains. Good tbh
I don't like him as a person, he seems a cold, arrogant fish. He's got that lefty aloof thing going on.
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The only way the people who voted leave to significantly cut immigration will get what they want is to vote for ukip (and win) in a general election. Tories don't care. It's like the coalition all over again. Promises not broken because another party was involved.
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Sid wrote:The class hatred is unbearable at the minute. The middle classes, sections of the left, liberals, just heaping shit on the working class former industrial cities

These are the places like Hull that have shocking poverty, that have been neglected and ignored by politicians, the left, the revolutionaries - and now they have an excuse to carry that on because they've had their prejudices confirmed

I'm done at the minute, massively can't be fucked
As I said previosly the vote went much,much deeper than just immigration,as the 'Remainers' would have us believe. It is again this great North/South divide. People in the North feel neclected and disenfranchised.Fuck an independent London,they're practically autonomous anyway. Lets go for an independent North,draw a line from the Severn to the Wash and go it alone.It can't be any worse. Oh,and include Wales in that.
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Lazarus wrote:Fuck Jeremy ,if your going just say so and shut the fuck up, i've heard more out of him in the last 5 mins than i've heard for months.
Ha that was my thinking as well. He was speaking in past tense so I thought he's going to say he's off, any minute. But no, he remains. Good tbh
I don't like him as a person, he seems a cold, arrogant fish. He's got that lefty aloof thing going on.
Definitely, I had this convo yesterday. He's clever and logical, which is good for a PM like, but that sometimes comes across as lacking emotion and aloof.
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