Sid wrote:Yeah Red, nice to hear from you again
Me and Alf are currently recruiting for decent Tory hating individual to carry the fight against the Tory sympathisers and pig fucker justifiers
Uniform will be provided but you'll have to fill out your tax forms etc.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34625487Sid wrote:I don't know, Alf. The CND is a small issue to most people. The priority is always jobs, education, economy. Cameron has his little fucking personal crusades too, like the fox hunting ban which makes him appear really right wing and evil, like the CND shit makes Corbyn appear really left wing and studenty. The idea that Corbyn is persuing some personal agenda is more than likely Tory spin.
The theory is this: a lot of working class people will go back to Labour if they stick to a left wing principles and possibly tie it in with some patriotic nonsense. They'll bring back the left wingers from the Lib Dems who are finished and have shitloads of voters looking for a new home, and the SNP who despite being the Scottish Tories have convinced Scotland which is massively left wing and working class that Sturgeon is a hero. Then there's the proles in UKIP who got about 6 million votes at the last election, and the BNP before them. Labour lost out by just over 2 million votes in the last election, so they probably need around 2 million from this lot, which I can see happening tbf.
And if it doesn't happen then it's a sign that party politics is a bag of shite. It's admitting that you have to be Tory Lite to win an election. And if that's the case then Corbyn might as well step down now and join real struggle outside of politics to bring about change. Like those knobs in Syriza - should have jacked it in.
Alfonso Bedoya wrote:... the lower classes in this country are in real trouble now!
What I believe that showed is that people believed the Tory spin, that marketing strategy, of repeating a point over and over... "economic chaos" under Labour... they hammered that into the collective consciousness for months, and Labour under the dynamic leadership of Millipede couldn't shake it off... by the time the debates came around, Cameron didn't need to "win", or even convince anyone... just not say anything stupid...Steggo wrote:Alfonso Bedoya wrote:... the lower classes in this country are in real trouble now!
And yet the Mori figures for the 2015 election show that 27% in the D/E social demographic that voted,voted for the Tories.Without going too deeply into the statistics that group showed the second highest swing from Labour to Tory (2.5%) (C2 being the highest with 4%). How that transfers into votes I don't know but it shows that a significant number of the 'lower classes' contribute,for whatever reason, to there being a reactionary Tory government in power.
Alfonso Bedoya wrote:What I believe that showed is that people believed the Tory spin, that marketing strategy, of repeating a point over and over... "economic chaos" under Labour... they hammered that into the collective consciousness for months, and Labour under the dynamic leadership of Millipede couldn't shake it off... by the time the debates came around, Cameron didn't need to "win", or even convince anyone... just not say anything stupid...Steggo wrote:Alfonso Bedoya wrote:... the lower classes in this country are in real trouble now!
And yet the Mori figures for the 2015 election show that 27% in the D/E social demographic that voted,voted for the Tories.Without going too deeply into the statistics that group showed the second highest swing from Labour to Tory (2.5%) (C2 being the highest with 4%). How that transfers into votes I don't know but it shows that a significant number of the 'lower classes' contribute,for whatever reason, to there being a reactionary Tory government in power.
The Tories had the money, and the press... they hired the best campaign strategists, and blew the rest out of the water...
